tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21651465.post8830211119585440095..comments2024-03-18T05:55:21.051-07:00Comments on Rice Daddies: My daughter can't win Miss UniverseUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21651465.post-11003608723968952372007-06-18T11:57:00.000-07:002007-06-18T11:57:00.000-07:00little miss sunshine, man. The superfreaking at t...little miss sunshine, man. The superfreaking at the end was so hilarious, and such a great way to destroy a beauty pagaent from the inside out.<BR/><BR/>One one level, I wouldnt ever want my daughter dancing like that to a rick james tunes. but on the other, if it had to be done, I would want THAT to be the reason why.thisislarryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04157349911656341561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21651465.post-34131123299888023592007-06-17T17:32:00.000-07:002007-06-17T17:32:00.000-07:00Monster Daddy,We're in agreement that one ethnic s...Monster Daddy,<BR/><BR/>We're in agreement that one ethnic standard of beauty shouldn't be imposed across the board.<BR/><BR/>However, the article is about a woman whose mission is to run beauty contests. My point is that the world of beauty pageants, like Hollywood and the fashion industry, has an entire standard of "beauty" that is oppressive and always will be, regardless of what the favored Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21651465.post-73332976037736485022007-06-17T10:08:00.000-07:002007-06-17T10:08:00.000-07:00ten feet of steel, I think you misunderstand the p...ten feet of steel, I think you misunderstand the point I was making which was simply against having one racial standard of beauty being imposed on women of any race. Don't read any more into it.<BR/><BR/>That said, I get the impression that you feel that few women can meet any external standard of beauty. That may be true for some. Personally, my standard of beauty for women is quite broad andMonster Daddyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03243383830997008430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21651465.post-83382464327086184192007-06-17T03:11:00.000-07:002007-06-17T03:11:00.000-07:00one thing could be said for having a Korean beauty...<EM>one thing could be said for having a Korean beauty standard - at least more Korean women will be able to meet it vs. trying to meet a Eurocentric standard</EM><BR/><BR/>How many more women? 0.1% more? 1% more? 10% more? Monster daddy, the way I see it, the point is to not validate any arbitrary ideal of beauty by trying to meet it. None are permanent, all change with the trends, and, Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21651465.post-73982933430657359802007-06-15T11:22:00.000-07:002007-06-15T11:22:00.000-07:00I don't think my daughter is in any danger of join...I don't think my daughter is in any danger of joining a beauty contest. But what keeps me up at night is trying to conteract the messages that women in her immediate circle of influence send regarding who sees themselves as too fat and "not ready for bathing suit season". Mamas, you're daughters (and sons!) are watching you and we need to lead by example. Accept yourself and value your inner Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21651465.post-31392139839177116702007-06-15T09:42:00.000-07:002007-06-15T09:42:00.000-07:00Gender roles, standards of beauty, our daughters a...Gender roles, standards of beauty, our daughters are subjected to so much crap by our society and our media that we have to consciously work against, work to balance out in our parenting. My daughter's only 2 and I've been thinking about this stuff since before she was born. Add the issue of race into the mix, and it gets even more complicated.<BR/><BR/>As dads of daughters, we have an important daddy in a strange landhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02838412669298860456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21651465.post-36034384265186206432007-06-15T09:26:00.000-07:002007-06-15T09:26:00.000-07:00Thanks liza and mama nabi.It's going to be interes...Thanks liza and mama nabi.<BR/><BR/>It's going to be interesting during her teen years, LOL! While I am honestly happy for my daughter that she is blessed with good looks on the outside (and all the benefits that psychologists say go along with that), as a parent I think it's going to be challenging.<BR/><BR/>She's already getting special attention from boys in Kindergarten (geez!) and adults Monster Daddyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03243383830997008430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21651465.post-79090235360770117962007-06-15T08:35:00.000-07:002007-06-15T08:35:00.000-07:00Oh, and your daughter? By far TOO beautiful to be...Oh, and your daughter? By far TOO beautiful to be entering that farce of a contest. My goodness, she is breathtakingly beautiful - I'm sure she is just as beautiful inside!<BR/><BR/>Ha ha, I just caught the line that says that Ms. L was handpicked by Donald Trump. Well. That says it all, doesn't it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21651465.post-66562123826801695342007-06-15T08:23:00.000-07:002007-06-15T08:23:00.000-07:00BTW: jstele, I believe you're thinking of Kyong. ...BTW: jstele, I believe you're thinking of Kyong. <BR/><BR/>I have a hard time accepting beauty pageants as anything but damaging to little girls. Have you noticed that the current Miss Korea has had obvious alterations made to her face? It hurts so much personally when I see traditional Korean beauties be rejected for an altered artificial beauty made to look nothing like me. A model such as Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21651465.post-65931421180117008852007-06-15T07:48:00.000-07:002007-06-15T07:48:00.000-07:00Angie,"there's that word "IF" again. "If she was a...Angie,<BR/><BR/>"there's that word "IF" again. "If she was a Japanese woman" . . . she's not. That's the point."<BR/><BR/>I wonder why you brought the word 'if' up, but then I remembered. . . . You wrote a comment on the Kimchi Mamas blog attacking Jill for using 'if' in her apology. I wrote a civil comment in response to you. It is rather tasteless and quite inappropriate, I might add, to slam Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21651465.post-6380061713743631212007-06-15T07:09:00.000-07:002007-06-15T07:09:00.000-07:00OK, that article was appalling on so many levels i...OK, that article was appalling on so many levels it is almost impossible to know where to start. <BR/><BR/>So. Instead I'll just weigh in with my opinion that your daughter is beautiful, and the reasons I think so are because of the humor and intelligence in her eyes and the joy in her smile. <BR/><BR/>And IMO, those things don't require cultural translation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21651465.post-51065492006298981902007-06-15T06:31:00.000-07:002007-06-15T06:31:00.000-07:00jstele:there's that word "IF" again. "If she was ...jstele:<BR/><BR/>there's that word "IF" again. "If she was a Japanese woman" . . . she's not. That's the point.<BR/><BR/>"I . . . then judge." Who are you to make judgents like that, esp. when using the word "IF"?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21651465.post-19789501456778335182007-06-15T04:28:00.000-07:002007-06-15T04:28:00.000-07:00Ten feet of steel,"Ambiguous? In what fantasy worl...Ten feet of steel,<BR/><BR/>"Ambiguous? In what fantasy world? The woman's entire perspective, as well as the sentiments quoted in this post, are downright racist."<BR/><BR/>Well, I want to give people the benefit of the doubt. When I read comments, I try to find every reasonable explanation for them, then judge. In this case, her comments come off as ambiguous. They could be negative or not, so Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21651465.post-90967687381751737622007-06-15T04:22:00.000-07:002007-06-15T04:22:00.000-07:00Angie,"WHO ARE YOU, JSTELE?! Who?! I keep seeing y...Angie,<BR/><BR/>"WHO ARE YOU, JSTELE?! Who?! I keep seeing your comments and the more I read them, the more I wonder who you are . . . I mean, c'mon!"<BR/><BR/>Hahahaha. LOL. I must torture you some more:)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21651465.post-31353507872374287652007-06-15T00:16:00.000-07:002007-06-15T00:16:00.000-07:00Man, if I were a sellout, I'd spend my money consu...Man, if I were a sellout, I'd spend my money consuming Western media, feeding Hollywood all my cash to make sure they give me an endless supply of their poison.<BR/><BR/>Then I'd do my medical residency in plastic surgery, specialize in <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_blepharoplasty" REL="nofollow">Asian blepharoplasty</A> and breast augmentation, and offer my services to your SoulSnaxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11685020878649396656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21651465.post-61996104823099763032007-06-14T22:33:00.000-07:002007-06-14T22:33:00.000-07:00This article was published in Time magazine and ob...This article was published in Time magazine and obviously the author and editors think it's Western-centric message will appeal to the majority of its readers.<BR/><BR/>And no doubt it will find appeal amongst many readers who just love seeing non-Westerners adopting Western standards as a validation of themselves. And as an added bonus they can laugh at Japanese men for their freakish tastes.<Monster Daddyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03243383830997008430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21651465.post-78793680192065622962007-06-14T21:06:00.000-07:002007-06-14T21:06:00.000-07:00Ambiguous? In what fantasy world? The woman's en...Ambiguous? In what fantasy world? The woman's entire perspective, as well as the sentiments quoted in this post, are downright racist.<BR/><BR/>I think nations, particularly those with largely non-white populations, should just stop supporting the damn Miss Universe pageant anyway. The whole idea of a country wanting to show how "its women" are just as/more beautiful that "other countries' Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21651465.post-464990133076024432007-06-14T20:21:00.000-07:002007-06-14T20:21:00.000-07:00WHO ARE YOU, JSTELE?! Who?! I keep seeing your ...WHO ARE YOU, JSTELE?! Who?! I keep seeing your comments and the more I read them, the more I wonder who you are . . . I mean, c'mon!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21651465.post-27881885768028887122007-06-14T19:56:00.000-07:002007-06-14T19:56:00.000-07:00"Ligron, 44, is the national director of Miss Univ..."Ligron, 44, is the national director of Miss Universe Japan, and her job is to create world-class beauty queens out of young Japanese women in a country that favors smallness over voluptuousness,"<BR/><BR/>You highlighted "smallness over voluptuousness" in your post, but that phrase was written by the author, not Ligron.<BR/><BR/>"The first thing that struck me was — I have to liberate these Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21651465.post-64522157034629148082007-06-14T19:23:00.000-07:002007-06-14T19:23:00.000-07:00Beauty standards worldwide are damaging to girls. ...Beauty standards worldwide are damaging to girls. I find that both Eurocentric and Korean beauty standards were equally oppressive when I was growing up.<BR/><BR/>This woman's particular take on beauty is, of course, blatantly racist. But to be honest, it's hard for me to say whether the act of judging beauty would be any less problematic without overtones of racism--or if it's even possible Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com